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>> and what he's planning for the new year. plus, one-on-one with the one who's taking on donald trump like no other. and as the year ends, a special look at a stunning year on the trail. plus, the big predictions about where the campaign is heading in 2016. >> announcer: from abc news, "this week" with george stephanopoulos beginnow. good morning. i'm jonathan karl. geor and martha have the holiday off. while most of the candidates have been quiet, donald trump used the holiday to go on a twitter tirade against rivals on both sides, tweeting, remember en failed can't jeb bush said that illegals came across the border as an a act of love? he spent $509 million and is at 3%. overnight, tweeting, hillary clinton has announced that she's
campaign but 's demonstrated a inappropriate! i have been coving trump's presidential ambitions from the start. all of the way back to 2013, when no one thought he would actually run and this morning, a look at the year of trump. our roundtable is standing by with their insights and we'll even ask a supreme court justice what he thinks of trump'p's proposals. but first, we went on the trail this week for an exclusive interview with the man who has tlans formed the race for the white house. >> we are going to make america great again! i love you. i love you. thank you. >> reporter: as a presidential candidate donald trump turned to the republican primary into a blockbuster. >> i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created, i tell you that. >> reporter: we caught up with trump this week before a rally year that was.
kind of dismissed, you know, ople said, maybe he'll be in a flash in the pan. did you think you would dominate the field? >> not to this extent and not this ickly. really, it's very quick. we're doing so amazeingly well. we have the keep, i want to keep the lead. it's a very strong domination and it's a very, very big lead. i didn't think we would have that. i expected to run. >> you thought you would win the nomination. >> i thought i would win. >> reporter: in fact, we were there with trump for his first foray into iowa more than go year ago when no one believed he would run. >> you have a long time to go. >> could you be taking seriously as a presidential candidate? >> it's a company like this untry should look.
him a year later in washington, a trump presidential run still seemed highly unlikely, you're not thinking about running for presidident? >> i'm looking at. i'm going to give it serus consideration. we may surprise you. >> i would be shocked. >> reporter: fast forwardo this summer, announcncement like a hollywood premiere, including a dramatic e entrance by calator. >> well, you need somebody, because politicians are all talk, no action. nothing's going to get done, they will not bring us, believe me, to the promised land. >> reporteter: trump has cast himself as an action hero in an epic battle against career politicians and those deep-pocket donors that pay for access. is that the appeal? politics has gotten corrupt. >> politics is corrupt and i think people know that and i think that if it's not corrupt
influenced by bad forces. the deals we make with these countries and with companies and other places and other people, they're not that stupid. they give millions and millions of dollars to candidates. jon, they're making it, because these candidates are controlleled 100% by the pple who give them the money. reporter: refusing for a while to rule out running as an independent before pledging allegiance to the gop. he launched a series of insults first at mexican imgrants, then women, a call for a temporary ban of all muslims that sparked the harshest condemnation. >> wha was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for.
what this country stands for. >> reporter: president obama did interview where he said you're exploiting those anners and fears of people left behind by the economy. >> people are angry. they arere angry. i'm not tapping into the aer and people have said i'm doing that. certainly i'm not doing it intentionally. i know it can be turned around quickly. if you have another four years, like a hillar that kind of mentality and thinking, we're not going to have a countryry left. >> reporter: trump ended the year as he started. using a c crude sexual term describing how hillary clinton lost to barack obama. but with each controversy, trump ratings have only gone higher. deba viewership shattering records. rising poll numbers. magazine covers and hosting snl. >> i don't have to get eck.
it's mac. >> reporter: campaign mitatementsts lie of thehe year award. saying they couldn't pick just one. but false claims, typically disqualify a nominee, saying thousands celebrated in new jersey on 9/11 haven't made viewers tune out. >> i don't have time for total political correctness. to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time, either. >> reporter: although rivals wrote him just as a smer stunt, have been forced to take him on. >> this a tough business. >> you're a tough guy, jeb, i know. >> we need to have a leade you're never going to be president of the united states -- >> i'm at 42% and you're at 3%. >> doesn't matter. >> rorter: the democratic field is now aiming their fire at trump, as they did during last week's new hampshire debate. >> donald trump. >> donald trump.
do better against hillary clinton. >> i'm winning, i'm beating everyone. beating hillary is easier than beating these people. >> reporter: he's maintained a double-digit lead over the gop field in every abc news/washington post poll, more than five months on top. now, senator tedruz is polling neck and neck with trump in iowa. could the man who thrives being the winner handle a loss in the state that votes first, we asked him about cruz before he headed into his jam-packed rally in michigan. the guy giving you the toughest time now is ted cruz and you have given him a pass so far. >> he's a very nice guy. he's backed me in every position. hear those people. >> reporter: yeah. the biggest questio now, can his turn these supporters into votesn 2016? we'll all be tuning in. we turn now to the man who's
republican antitrump, ohio governor john kasich. governor kasich, thank y for joining us this morning. >> glad to be with you, jon. >> i want to right to the news this week that we hear that the obama administration is considering a plan to increase deportations of illegals, of those, undocumented immigrants here, specifically those who have run-ins with the law. trump tweeted, does everyone see the democrats and president obama are now, because of me, starting to port people who are here illegally. politics! are we seeing a trump effect, even of the obama administration? >> well, you know, i don't know about th, jo what we know, if peopleiolated the law, everybody that i know say they ought to be deported.
bill orey who startedhis movement a long time ago. look, in the very first debate, i said that trump has touched on something, people are afraid they're going to lose their job. if they're 51 years old, they can't find a job. their kids have too much debt. so, i absolutely can understd why people are so worked up, b but there's an interesting thing that trump said. he said none of the politicians will get this done. let me tell you about our state, i'm the seventh largest state in the country, 11.5 million people, if you're worried about your wages ours are going up. if you have a son or a daughter that's autistic you can get insurance. what we have done in ohio is offer specific solutions to problems and we have done it and that's why t the people of the state are in such a positive
what trump does, he complains about everything and loo these attacks on women and on hillary clinton not getting back to the stage on time, the attacks on hispanics and muslims. it's a top of the story, trump rising and everything, wait until we start voting and then we're going to know where people are. >> but let me ask you, on the issue of the 11 million undocumented immigrants who are in the united states right now, you now have a situation where not just trump but also ted cruz the twoeading candidates right now in virtually every poll for the republican nomination, both say, that those 11 million undocumented immigrants should be deported. this is something that for years, you and most republican leaders said, what was simply impossible, ong-headed, are you -- have you and others out of touch with thegrassroots of
>> listen, jon, look -- well, they don't. look i have done 45 town hall meetings in new hampshire. i have done more town hall meetings than anyone. i'm surging in the poll. really not far behind trump. when the voting starts we're going to find out. i do town halls. people ask me my plan, finish the border, have a guest worker program. for the $11.5 million who are here, if they haven't violated laws, they can be here. i think it's ridiculous we're going to into neighborhoods, split up families and ship people back to mexico. 's not gng to happen, jon. so, don't get all -- everybody's all hyped up about these polls. we're going to know in another 30 40 days.
iowa to go on to new hamhire to get blown out. i'm very optimistic about new hampshire myself. the party is not for deporting 11.5 million people. i'm sorry, i don't believe it. >> i what want to ask you a question that you were asked before on this show, we're getting closer now, no dodge, direct answer from govovernor kasich, if donald trump wins the nomination -- >> i'm not going to get answer -- >> you're saying it's possible you won't support him? >> i made a pledge -- i made a pledge and i have been listening to him lately and you notice he's tend down the rhetoric. i listened too your six minute coverage of him, he's toning it down. i hope going forward he'll be a yuan fier. you can't win the white house without winning ohio. if we have a candidate that comes into ohio that's divider, no chance they're going to win it.
who's going too look at problems and solve them. i would agree with trump, they don't want lobbyists telling the elected officials what t to do. i will tell you ththis, there were no problem. whatever your problem is, if you're working poor you're going to get health care. if you want to see faster economic growth you move to ohio, you know why? we take everything on with solutions to problems, we just don't pontificate and have a bunch of rhetoric. we're realistic and we' fixing problem. >> you mentioned the town hall meetings in new hampshire you did, codo you have to win the new hampshire primary? >> i have to do well enough there, jon, so i'm the story coming out of new hampshire and i think i will be. i tell you, if i come out new hampshire, everywhere i go, people say you need more time on the debate stage.
ha known me for a long time, i have catch fire, and if i catch fire i think the sky's the limit. 45 townhall meetings and i'm hoping to get to 100. >> now, it looks like fox business is paring down the next debate. rand paul is the same position. he said he won't participate in one of these undercard debates. where are you on that? >> i think we'll make the main stage and like i said, we just had a poll, it's the most accurate all off the polls, it samples a greater number of people. so, it's all about how they want to pick stuff. i'm hoping we'll be on the stage. but what matters in new hampshire is what you have on
ground ge with john sununu among others. we got people coming the state. that's what wins eltions, what you're doing on the ground, coupled with some of what you do on the telision advertising and i feel very, very good. in fact i'm heading to new hampshire tomorrow. i'm breaking up my christmas vacation with myfamily. my wife had a birthday yesterday. my kids are with me. >> all righght,appy birthday to your wife and governor kasich, thank you for joining us. >> yes. and happy new year and god bless everyone who's watching. america is going to be stronger. >> okay, thank you, governor kasich. let's bring in o our powerhouse round table. we're j joined b matthew dowd,
granderson. editor of the weekly standard bill kristol and mary bruce. welcome to all of you. we'll be backith all of you in the moment. but first, quick question, matt, back in september, around labor day, you predicted that as it stood there, donald trump would be the republican nominee. what could derail him between now and super tuesday. >> the only thing that i think that can bring donald trump down is himself. self-inflicted on donald trump himself. those are the points in time in which donald trump -- he won't be brought down by television ads or speeches by other candidates. donald trump has to bring himself down. we still don't know if he loses iowa, what effect that could have on the totality of the race. donald trump is the only candidate in this race who's constantly risen in the course
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conservative alternative to the current front-run zbler we spent a lot of time developing detailed papers. clearly, there wasn't a lot of interest in those policy papers. >> this is not a game show, this is not a reality show. >> gop governors and senators left by the wayside in donald trump's wake. all taking a parting shot at the repupublican front-runner. we're back now with the powerhouse roundtable. taking on where the gop stands now and where wre heading in 2016. bill, how is it, why is it that de despite this relent series of attacks on donald trump, nothing stops it -- >> the republican primary voters don't like the media, so trump's words wh the media helped trump. they don't like the republican establishment and the congressional leadership.
themselves intoertain chunk of the republican electorate has talked themselves into disliking disliking. is that 25% of the republican primary electorate? 45%? >> you have been predicting his demise for months. >> i have. i'm sticking with it. what's the point of changing now? that's pathetic. if i'm right i can say i'm early. if i'm wrong, i won't get any edit bush no, i think he'll lose iowa. once he loses iowa that's a big moment. >> i'm a winner. >> i'm a winner, i i'm ignoring the usuals in politics. if it's cruz 47,000, trump
the sort of -- the mystique is gone. at that point i think he's very vulnerable. >> do you think trump can be a candidate like anyone else the question is, what can happen? if he loses iowa, what's his playbook? he doesn't seemm to have one at the moment. what does he do next? he doesn't seem to be you fund-raising a lot. he's not hiring pollsters. what does it look like when you go past february. >> at trump headquarters, on 5th avenue in t trump tower, there's almost nobody there. this a shoe string campaign. a winning campaign so far. >> a shoe string by a billionaire. >> yes. >> i have been amused watching the republican establishment brining it back to some normalcy.
birther, talking about obama's grades in college. you didn't hear this, he's out of line. he was a muslim, you didn't hear the leadership say, musli are americans -- >> they ignored him. >> they also e embraced the energy that he's been feeding. they're going to listen to him more than the establishment. >> okay, i want to put all you guys on the spot, sorry about this ux i want to hear specific predecks on iowa and new hampshire. >> three months from now you'll play a tape back. before i do my prediction, the thing that's driving this election, not personalities per se, the mesh public and gop is looking for strength and donald trump portrays that.
so, iowa, i think this race right now, comes down to two candidates right now. ted cruz and donald trump. i couldn't tell you who's going to win that race. i side with ted cruz winng it because of his support among social conservatives. but who will show in that race? the third finisher in that race cod be very important going into new hampshire. >> new hampshire? >> i think donald trump wins new hampshire. >> south carolina? and i think donald trump wins south carolina. >> okay. >> i have cruz, trump, trump. >> i think cruz wins iowa. one of the govern nors could win new hampshire. either cruz or kasich. i don't believe trump will winnetter one. trump will come back and win south carolina. so, a split result which means
the one thing that i have been wrong about is this notion that the trump bubblee will burst. he's in for the long haul. he has more organization than people think. >> certainly in iowa. > in iowa. in new hampshire. ateadquarters he lets you see what he wants you to see. it's not an amateur campaign. trump is in for the long haul. cruz is in for the long haul. one of the three, cruz, rubio and kasich. >> i'm going to say trump in iowa. part of the reason why, i was at a trump rally a few weeks ago. i asked this question, would you be willing to switch your allegiance to ted cruz? lot of people were almost furious at the next to that cruz would come in and beat trump in the state pap new hampshire, i'm going with christie.
town hall quite like chris christie. >> if trump wins iowa he runs the ble. >> okay so, whehen will we know? a premptive nominee? >> i disagree slightly with bill on this, this is national race until we get to iowa. for 30 days it's a state by state race. then it becomes a national race. by mid-march, we'll pretty much know who they need. someone is going to win 16 of them. >> i have a hard time believing that anyone is going to overtake trump at this point? matthew, you thought that trump could stop himself. it seems as he had been to stop himself for months, saying these bombastic, highly offensive things --
>> i think we already know. >> one interesting thing of the polls -- is trump does very well in these national polls. in actual state polls, early state polls more focused on the race and voting he's weaker. in iowa, he's behind cruz. i think as voters get more serious, there's some falloff from trump. heoesn't disappear, he doesn't go away. >> this is a hope d a prayer. >> what is wrong with a hope and prayer? >> bill, when does he g go down? >> he fights it out through the primary on mch 1st and march 15th. i think this will b a nominee in late march. march 15th has ohio and florida, winner take all. they're both very interesting states this year.
rubio and bush from florida. >> i think you could have something of a free for all especially if they split iowa and new hampshire. >> thank you, mary, that's what we want. >> the man to watch is paul ryan. he'll have to be the ngmaker. >> okay, before we go, a special supreme court puzzler with justice stephen breaer, i had a rare interview with him coming up. >> how many supreme court justices in history p previousl served as supreme court law clerks? >> all right, back in just two minutes with the answer and later, our powerhouse
so, how many supreme court justices previously served as law clerks to another justice? matt and lz. >> i have seven. >> that's pretty impressive. 112 or 1 or happy kwanzaa. >> yes, too many, that's not very speck. >> eight. >> here's justice breyer again with the answer. >> the answer is six. there iskagan, there's chief justice johohn roberts. there is me and also there's byron white, chief justice ryan kwis. >> much more fm breyer ahead. for the first time the supreme cot justice weighs in on donald trump's proposedan on muslims entering the country. stay with us. >> announcer: "this week" with george stephanopous brought to you by prudential.out to the nation's capital
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momentum seems to have stalled a little bit, lz, cane regain that momentum and win in those states? because he has to, right? >> i think it's pretty much a do deal. i think we all know what's going to happen on the democratic side. everyone likes the idea of bernie sanders. when you start breaking down what he wants to do and how much it's going to cost, hillaryry clinton is the bet. >> if this hasn't been the year of trump this would have been- wewe would be talking about the year of bernie nders, what he's done in taking on n the establishment and hillary clinton, he's at the same percentage that donald trump has among republicans he has among democrats. i think the only way he cracks thisis open and possibly has a faith, he has to win iowa and new hampshire and hope the whole
what happens if he does? >> then i think joe biden regrets his decision of not having not run. which i think he should anyway. i think he didn't have to put together an organization -- >> but biden couldn't jump in. >> no. i think hillary clinton slogs. she becomes more weak and the only thing that democrats hope for, after that long slog, she wins the nomination after that long slog. i agree with lz, it's highly unlikely. he loses iowa. >> but mary, he has taken off in a way none of us had predicted. >> absolutely. if he wins iowa and new hampshire, remember, tradition and history says you have to win one of them. the last time a democrat lost both and went on to win the nomination is a clinton. entirely possible that you could see another clinton pull that
>> the biggest story is how weak hillary clinton is -- >> time-out, how weak e is? >> the republicans as you're happily talking about have this trump fiasco going on. hillary clinton now loses by a point, two or three to marco rubio, pretty unknown first-term senator, she's tied with ted cruz in the last national poll. >> all right, let me show you -- zble >> she's u under wat. i think he wins, an important question that mary raises bernie can beat her in new hampshire pretty easily. beat her in new harp shire and -- i think it could be a mondale situation. >> let's take a look at the very -- most recent national poll, donald trump versus hillary clinton matchup.
lz, this is within the margin of error. right now, cnn poll they're tied. >> and every other republican is stronger than hillary clinton. >> first of all, i don't speak for the hillary clinton campaign. >> in that race you vote no. >> right. i think america knows. i think what we're looking at right now that governor kasich talked about earlier, polls, sh shmolls. someone who supports disrim nation and one who esn't. that will boil down to a lot of young voters. >> the only republican hillary clinton can beat is donald trump. >> no, i think the two weakest
against are the two leading republican candidates donald trump and ted cruz. she's going to win in those races. there will be a third party gop-type candidate if donald trump or ted cruz is the nominee. >> i used to think cruz couldn't beat clinton. i'm struck by these polls. >> i want to get to a prediction. let's assume that hillary clinton wins the democratic nomination, who is her running mate? >> i think it's going to be a white male that appeal to the working-class voters, someone from the mididwest or from the west. i would put on tt list the governor of colorado or senator brown of ohio which is probably going to be top of the list. she's g got to bolster her working-class base. >> okay. >> i'm thinking she's going to
where cruz or rubio falls. even though when you understand the hispanic and latino community -- she's either to go castro or cane. >> not raul castro. >> or fidel. >> i think brown of ohio or kane. i go castro. he doesn't have a ton of experience. >> the answer is tim kane. a rare interview with a supreme court justice in the landmark year for america's hight court and the year of the activist and 2015 seismic
marriage. following an historic year for the supreme court with landmark decisisions upholding same-sex marriage and president obama's health care law, i had a chance to visit the supreme court for arre interview with stephen breyer, he's the court's true swing vote in the court's most recent term, he voted with the majority 92% of the time. he told me while the justices may have their differences they not nearly as partisan as people think. >> people think a lot of different things of the country,
judges of this court do disagree about certain number of things? they'll resolve their differences under law despite disagreements. court. >> doesn't that erode confidence when you see these high-profile cases ss breaking down 5-4? >> there are 50%re unanimous. >> i'm talking about -- >> i know that you only talk about the ones the 20% that are 5-4. more likely reflect differences of philosophical outlook if you'd like rather than differences of politics. politics to me is who's got the vote? are you republican? are you democrat? popular or unpopular? >> reporter: he's an a author of a new book, the court should look beyond our boarders as it
take his death penal dissent this year. you pointed out in those 40 pages that there are only 22 countries that carry out executions in 2013. and only eight countries that did more than ten. one of them is the united states. why is that relevant what other countries are doing? >> forbids a cruel and unusual punishment punishment. unusual in the world or in the united states? some people think it means the world and therefore it's highly relevant and others think it's more limited to the united states. >> reporter: among the toughest issues breyer and the court have wrestle with finding a balance between national security and
>> ciceron time of war, the laws fall silent. no, that was t thecourt's attitude for a long time and that led i in world war ii to 70,000 american citizens of japanese ogin being removed from their homes and put in camps and this court in 1944 upholding that witho any evidence whatsoever. they upheld it, because they're thinking, we can't run the war, roosevelt has to. >> this is a case you have written about extensively. can this happen again in the united states? >> i doubt it. >> why. >> this country h has developed a stronger traditionsover civil elect and what do you think when you hear donald trump come out and say that, you know, proposed a ban on one religious group ming into the united states? >> what do i i think when i hear that?
states has a right to express an opinion a judge has to do his best not to have an opinion on a political matter like that one is highly political and if i have an opinion i might talk to my wife about it but i'm not going to talk about it -- i'm not going to answer the question if i talk to my wife about it. >> one more on this, it's interesting, trump in making the case for his ban on muslims coming into the country cites fdr's entermrmentf the japanese? >> that's his affair. >> reporter: aimportanted by in 1974, three justices will be over 80. factor, who's the person nominating my replacement? the question you're asking, if this person is president would
president you would reti. >> reporter: donald trump if he's president of thenited states, ted cruz president of the united states, you wouldn't decide, you knonow what, i was thinking about retiring i'll stick around >> it's a highly personal decision. you have to be able to do the b. i think it's my self-interest. experience does help. >> but i'm asking you -- >> i know you are. >> i know you're asking you a direct question. i'm giving you an indirect answer. >> more of my conversation with stephen breyer at abcnews.com/"this week." this has been the year of the activist or the year of the movement. whether trump. black lives matter. lz,hat is your sense on the impact that black lives matter
>> i'm glad you went to the black perso first, it's very important. the important thing about black lives matter it got white people to pay attention. what i mean by that is, you have all known thahat racism was still out there in theory. now you have video operating in practice. what i saw in ferguson versus staten island with eric grand and over thehe last few weeks in chicago with laquan mcdonald, when you have something on video it becomes undeniable. black lives matter s helped positioned these images for wider america. this has been happening to us for decades and i'm glad to see in 2015 into 2016 moreeople having these conversation and lz, really good point. there's been movements throughout american history. they pop up.
a change in technology, allowing anybody toecord anything at any time, n longer can police cover for each other or courts. it's basically a confrontation now that a movemenent uses to express what they want changed. >> bill? >> if the message of black lives matter -- many more african-americans are killed by routine crime and police -- tough policing has saved a lot of black lives over the last 20 years. rudy giuliani and mike bloomberg and bratton and ray kelly have dropped the murder rate in new york to 200 a year. lot of those victims were black. the effect inhe role world of black lives matters is lessen police. >> race relations will continue
election and the campaign. you see the continued use of the technology. consider baltimore, i covered thosee riots in baltimore, vow five more cases. they're spread out. the tension in that city hasn't been addressed. >> very quick, last word. >> i have to say, always going back to black on black crime prettyuch what you're saying, it's the fact of white people do when they want to face reality. the fact of the matter is, no one in the black community are ying police are the sole problem. when we get back, i'll
homeless veteran on this morning, a look at a fight to end homeless veterans. despite a dramatic decline more than 47,000 veterans living on the streets this holiday season. i met up with one of those vets. >> this is my tent. i put these trees in front of >> it this has been home. >> yes, right here. >> reporter: tony jones knows a ing or two about camouflaging a tent. he learned it in army. >> that's how i learned how to do the trenching around the tent. >> reporter: stuff you learned in the army.
this, homeless?? >> no. not in a million years. >> reporter: tony lives in this small patch of wilderness, just a few miles from the white house. for the past six years he's been homeless. >> oh, i have been looking for this. >> what's that? >> poetry i wrote. >> i didn't k know you're a poet. >> i didn't know that either. >> can you read a couple of lines. >> i am not alone but yet i am lonenely for my other half and this is not near or by me for i am the lonely one. >> reporter: he served inhe army for two years. today, his most prized possessions are his books. >> i like stephen king and i like sandra brown. >> reporter: but he cherishes one book above all --
here. when she died, i wanted her bible. >> she didn't know you're a homeless. >> i didn't want sympathy from nobody. >> reporter: he finds inspiratations from one verse in particular. >> what does it mean? >> the dog is still living. you know, s some time i felt like giving up some times. be so miserable and cold. i feel like everything's going against me. but i think about that scripture all the time. >> there are too many homeless veterans. >> there are so many of us. >> why are thehere so many
>> i was too scared to ask for help. i didn't know who i was going to help for ask. >> reporter: a casorker with miriam's kitchen an organization dedicated to ending homelessness in wasngton d.c. he applied for a voucher which will pay for rent. >> housing comes first. once someone gets a roof over theirad, everything else falls into place easier. >> it's like moving from a dungeon to a castle i'm not lying. >> there it is. >> for the first time in years, tony walks into his home through a door. >> please come in my castle. >> tony can now take a shower an put on a suit so he can go to a job interview. sleeping in a tent that's a lot harder to do. >> i feel great.
i feel like jamesbrown, "i feel good." >> love tony jones. you can see more of my conversation with him at abcnews.com/thisweek. thanks, for joinings, sharing part of your sunday with us. 2016 will be a wide ride. before we go, on behalf of george, martha a and our eire abc new on-air team, another big thank you to everyone here behind the scenes who brings you "this week" every week. we leave you a performance. have a happy and healthy think